Episode 162: Who Whurdles

January 24, 2013

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It may have taken us 162 episodes but we’ve finally bowed to listener pressure and attempted to hurdle Dr. Who. As the old adage says, be careful what you wish for.

Given the monumental height of this hurdle, we enlisted the help of our faithful companion, Kathie, who’d actually watched Dr. Who as a child. We thought this might help add perspective since I figure heart of the rabid Whovian fandom is nostalgia.

My theory was based on my experiences with Star Trek: The Next Generation. I grew up with original series Star Trek and then later I watched TNG from around Season 5 onward (when it started to get really good). My love for these shows is what helped me get through the first two abysmal seasons of TNG when we embarked upon our rewatch of the series.

As with introducing someone to TNG, the first two seasons of Dr. Who were probably not the best place to start our journey. Without the benefit of an existing infatuation with The Doctor, it’s hard not to watch an episode like “The End of the World” and not make constant glances at the “stop” button on the remote with a sense of longing.

But perhaps we were just missing the point of Dr. Who.

Listener Wally had this to say to us in an email regarding this episode:

I’m a massive Doctor Who fan. Old and new series, TV and audio. I think you’ve hit pretty well on why it sucks, but I also know you missed the point. Most of the time the show isn’t taking itself very seriously. When it does is often when it’s at its weakest, but when it is light and poking fun at itself it can be great. Blink and “timey wimey” is a good example.

The characters of The Doctor and the TARDIS are the only constant elements to the show, so you have to like them to enjoy it. After that it’s up to the writers. They can go for any genre or style, and any setting. A lot of the time they miss in cringe worthy fashion, but there are enough reasonable to great scripts to keep me coming back. You have to enjoy the slightly off beat style of the show though.

There are lots of reasons why Doctor Who is crap, but enough redeeming features that can’t be found in other shows to make it my favourite by a long way. If you can’t find your own reasons to get past the shit then it’s not for you.

What Wally says about “cringe worthy” and finding “your own reasons to get past the shit” reminds me of my own relationship with ST:TOS. There’s a lot of shit episodes I sit through with a smile on my face just because some part of me is reminded of being a five-year-old sat  in wonder at the magical space adventures of Kirk, Spock and the Enterprise. I suspect I will never have that with Dr. Who, so unless the following seasons are significantly stronger, I’m not sure The Doctor will ever be for me.

I believe this because I didn’t exactly “miss” the point so much as the point missed me. The balance between the show taking and not-taking itself seriously felt off. And it wasn’t just episode to episode that this flip-flop happened, but within the same episode it would often reach Red Dwarf levels of silliness and then turn around and ask me to take the situations and characters seriously. This can work in theory, but it hasn’t worked in episodes like “New Earth” and “Army of Ghosts/Doomsday.”

The show seems to consider itself neither science fiction nor fantasy and feels like it’s caught in a dimensional flux where it’s both and neither simultaneously. One moment it’s pantomime and the next it’s attempting naturalism but both approaches destroy the effect of the other. From the perspective of someone outside the fandom, the show is a complete, unmitigated mess.

Which I suspect is part of what the fans like about the show—to them (as with ST:TOS for me) the flaws enhance rather than detract.

So, should we keep watching Dr. Who and record a second part to this episode or should we never darken the Doctor’s hallowed halls again with our negativity? Let us know: nerds@nerdhurdles.com.

Special Executive Producer for this episode: Tony Pucci.

Please watch some Dr Who. It would be wonderful to hear your opinions on it, especially for us here in Britain who may not understand all of your cultural references.

July 12, 2010

Oi! We ‘ave to put up with your blimey cultural references on podcasts all the time, matey!

No, we really should do the Who. It’s a classic nerd hurdle trifecta:

1) Uber-rabid fans (Whooies?) make us think it can’t possibly live up to its hype;

2) There SO much of it. Where do we start? The Baker or the Tennant? Makes one want to give up right there; and

3) The production values seem a little crap.

Actually, it’s something I want to delve into (not sure about Mandi), it’s just that we keep running into those three barriers. We will, in the future, cross space and time to hurdle this subject.

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